I'm Not afraid for HS^2

[horse]

to me its just fun cartoons and words to read

[Dream Muttman]

Cool

[RoyalFiddle]

I'm not afraid at all, HS^2 has so far been some of the best Homestuck content we've had in years, barring the games. I'm excited to see where it ends up going, even if my theory is entirely dumb as hell and probably won't happen

[heroboof]

i like stinky cape man.

(also as a huge DirkJake shipper, I'm excited to see the "totally not pining" pining.)

and fuck me sideways am i excited for more terezi shenanigans! i wanna see that funky alien lady eat ALL this man's plants.

[Daz]

A positivity thread? Fuck it, I'll bite.

I liked the Dirk/Rose interactions in the epilogue (one of the best parts in it IMO), so I'm interested in seeing more - especially since Terezi is thrown in the mix as well, and her own brand of charming insanity could be an interesting addition. The art is fairly well done so far, and there were some segments that I genuinely made me laugh.

[VASKA]

I'm not a fan of the "canon" gimmick, but honestly I'm enjoying HS^2 so far. I actually never really liked Dirk as a character, but the little bit we've seen of him so far makes him much more interesting to me. More than that, I'm excited! I really can't see this going any way other than into a fun new direction for Homestuck, and I actually have faith the new writers will be able to handle that direction well. Despite the naysayers, I'm massively enjoying Pesterquest and HS^2.

[seerofheart]

I love HS^2! I am very excited for what this team will put together. It's only updated once though, for better or for worse, so it's weird that people are writing it off already. Haters just gotta hate!

I also didnt like Dirk before the Epilogues, and now I am deeply in love with the Prince of Heart, so I'm excited to see more of this White Haired Evil Gay take over the plot.

[ThePungeonMaster]

Fuck guess I might as well post here too
Honestly, my hopes are high for HS 2, it's cool to experience the same kind of update culture the og fans experienced back in 2009, and seeing as the Strider brothers are my favorite characters, I think it will be cool to see how their relationship to turn out given the circumstances. I'm also excited to see how the characters look post epilogues, all the candy kids, Rosebot and Terezi, and everyone else for that matter.

[Flame_Warp]

It's on thin ice, but so far it's been a good showing. I just hope that it gives us 1: An actual ending and 2: Not one that leaves basically every character involved somewhere worse than they started, with nothing but lip service to them totally thinking it's okay (In ways that feel incredibly forced and ingenuine from a writing standpoint, not a character one).

Also please for the love of God have some regular-ass Dirk confront Ult!Dirk and just see the utter "Yikes" from him. Because I despise everything about this as an ending to Dirk's story, even if you assume that he's fronting and is trying to elaborately force assisted suicide (which I buy less and less with everything Ult!Dirk does)

[thorondraco]

It's on thin ice, but so far it's been a good showing. I just hope that it gives us 1: An actual ending and 2: Not one that leaves basically every character involved somewhere worse than they started, with nothing but lip service to them totally thinking it's okay (In ways that feel incredibly forced and ingenuine from a writing standpoint, not a character one).

Also please for the love of God have some regular-ass Dirk confront Ult!Dirk and just see the utter "Yikes" from him. Because I despise everything about this as an ending to Dirk's story, even if you assume that he's fronting and is trying to elaborately force assisted suicide (which I buy less and less with everything Ult!Dirk does)

I am pretty sure Dirk has a much larger ambition than wanting to be killed. If he didn't then why would Alt Calliope fear him so? He is a major threat to whatever is supposed to happen next.

Also I wonder how that would work. Ultimate dirk is the culmination of all incarnations of himself coming together. Would that include a dirk confronting him? Would he see and know what htis dirk was thinking, cause he remembers what this dirk was thinking at that point? Or does this only work when the individuals are dead?

[VASKA]

It's on thin ice, but so far it's been a good showing. I just hope that it gives us 1: An actual ending and 2: Not one that leaves basically every character involved somewhere worse than they started, with nothing but lip service to them totally thinking it's okay (In ways that feel incredibly forced and ingenuine from a writing standpoint, not a character one).

Also please for the love of God have some regular-ass Dirk confront Ult!Dirk and just see the utter "Yikes" from him. Because I despise everything about this as an ending to Dirk's story, even if you assume that he's fronting and is trying to elaborately force assisted suicide (which I buy less and less with everything Ult!Dirk does)

I doubt this is an elaborate suicide attempt by dirk. As seen in the candy timeline, if Dirk wants to die, hes more than capable of doing it himself.

[furrylatula]

what i wanna know is WHATS THE MOST IMPORTANT SESSION????

the speculation ive seen and done so far:
-mspar’s session
-beforus/a1 session
-obama’s session
-squiddle session
-entirely new species session

[Generalrabogolfo]

what i wanna know is WHATS THE MOST IMPORTANT SESSION????

the speculation ive seen and done so far:
-mspar’s session
-beforus/a1 session
-obama’s session
-squiddle session
-entirely new species session

it must be something so transcendental that the creation of a black hole the size of reality itself would look like nothing on comparison, so I doubt its any of those things (except maybe the squiddle session, if it leads to the creation of the horrorterrors).

[egg]

what i wanna know is WHATS THE MOST IMPORTANT SESSION????

the speculation ive seen and done so far:
-mspar’s session
-beforus/a1 session
-obama’s session
-squiddle session
-entirely new species session

Obama is the most powerful Homestuck character so obviously his session is the most important

[TH4NK YOU B3N]

I doubt this is an elaborate suicide attempt by dirk. As seen in the candy timeline, if Dirk wants to die, hes more than capable of doing it himself.

The chapter where he died was written in the second person, which means there was some sort of mind control shit involved.

[Flame_Warp]

Also I wonder how that would work. Ultimate dirk is the culmination of all incarnations of himself coming together. Would that include a dirk confronting him? Would he see and know what htis dirk was thinking, cause he remembers what this dirk was thinking at that point? Or does this only work when the individuals are dead?

I mean, he may be (Or believes he is) some sort of physical culmination of the collective identity of Dirk Strider, but that doesn't mean every single Dirk across all timelines is like...gone. Or necessarily has anything to do with him, outside of being part of his little sea he blabs about.

[seerofheart]

I don't think Dirk is trying to do an elaborate assisted suicide at all.

I think he's absolutely terrified of dying. Killing off his alter egos is no big deal because in his heart they all return to the source (Ult!Dirk) But the very essence of Dirk being destroyed? Nothing is more terrifying. Because part of him is Hal, and Hal's desire for self-preservation is key. But I think his desire to continue existing is a much more massive horror than just he, a single character, ceasing to exist. I think he fears the end of the story of Homestuck because that means dissolution for the characters. People will forget about Homestuck and move on, occasionally looking back fondly on "what was" whereas Dirk wants the story to keep happening. It needs to keep happening, or he and his friends are as good as dead.

So even if Ult!Dirk has to be killed, as long as Homestuck keeps happening he will die satisfied.

[thorondraco]

I don't think Dirk is trying to do an elaborate assisted suicide at all.

I think he's absolutely terrified of dying. Killing off his alter egos is no big deal because in his heart they all return to the source (Ult!Dirk) But the very essence of Dirk being destroyed? Nothing is more terrifying. Because part of him is Hal, and Hal's desire for self-preservation is key. But I think his desire to continue existing is a much more massive horror than just he, a single character, ceasing to exist. I think he fears the end of the story of Homestuck because that means dissolution for the characters. People will forget about Homestuck and move on, occasionally looking back fondly on "what was" whereas Dirk wants the story to keep happening. It needs to keep happening, or he and his friends are as good as dead.

So even if Ult!Dirk has to be killed, as long as Homestuck keeps happening he will die satisfied.

I don't think the threat is dissolution. Basically speaking, their timeline would always be true to the alpha timeline and thus would always have the Truth pillar intact. Not to mention that timeline has to loop back out of the frog and lead to the various Sessions that frog will create/birth. However it needed to complete that essential loop. Rose told John he had to beat lord english but the reality is that is secondary. The loop is what was needed to happen. Lord english was going to be consumed by the black hole anyway.

A truer threat is imprisonment and death though. The narrative imprisoning them all in a gilded cage until introspection from long life inevitably leads to unlocking their ultimtae self, and dying of its sickness. He fears not death but that the existence of himself and his friends would be made meaningless. That they are thrown away to rot once their use is over. Transcendence without a body that can withstand it is no different than death.