Homestuck.XYZ 2.0

So I was skimming through the first HS2 update when I noticed this:
I haven't seen anyone comment on it, but it seems like a pretty big deal. You can see N31GH, in Dirk's color but Terezi's quirk, written on the wall in various scrambled ways, just like the genetic code for universes/first guardians. Does it mean anything? Who fucking knows? Theorize if you wish.

VASKA wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:28 pm

So I was skimming through the first HS2 update when I noticed this:

N31GH.gif

I haven't seen anyone comment on it, but it seems like a pretty big deal. You can see N31GH, in Dirk's color but Terezi's quirk, written on the wall in various scrambled ways, just like the genetic code for universes/first guardians. Does it mean anything? Who fucking knows? Theorize if you wish.

That's interesting, especially since we know that Maplehoof but a robot is flying on the ship with Dirk, along with a robotic Cal Head...
Hmmm...perhaps the things in his room holds more significance than we thought...

I went through the first update again and took another look at the room. There's very little in the room that is new and not referred to, and most of that is just pointless knick knacks, like a Skaianet flag and a My Little Pony VHS. Everything interesting except the code is either:

a) something we've seen in the story before
or
b) explained or used in the same update

since those codes are inexceptionally used to clone first guardians my guess would be that dirk is jumping the shark and having an ironic and obnoxious code ready to go for the planet he's going to be working on.

JakeMorph wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:46 pm

since those codes are inexceptionally used to clone first guardians my guess would be that dirk is jumping the shark and having an ironic and obnoxious code ready to go for the planet he's going to be working on.

I have a feeling that there's already going to be a new guardian already ready to go on the planet, and they are not going to be happy that now there's all these GOSH DARN IDIOTS raining from the sky and messing up THEIR SESSION.

Hopefully they are a little bit crazy, we haven't really seen that kind from our First Guardians. Please, please, let me use Bittersweet for somebody other than Doc Scratch. That's all I'm asking.

dirk was pretty particular about his choice in planet. i don't think he's about to have his gang fly to a planet that already has an angry demigod on it.

EDIT: that writing also isn't in the first panel depicting Dirk's quarters, which would suggest Terezi just told him to write it while she was having him piss around.

I mean it probably already has a first guardian on it, but that doesn't preclude Dirk from having a role in that first guardian's creation, since the guardian will technically be born in the future, during the session, then sent back to the planet on reckoning meteors, or at least that was the case with Bec and Scratch.

VASKA wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:00 pm

I mean it probably already has a first guardian on it, but that doesn't preclude Dirk from having a role in that first guardian's creation, since the guardian will technically be born in the future, during the session, then sent back to the planet on reckoning meteors, or at least that was the case with Bec and Scratch.

Would it? The green sun is gone.

thorondraco wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:11 pm

Would it? The green sun is gone.

To be fair, the Green Sun also didn't exist during the beta session but they still had Bec. So technically the Green Sun did still exist, and still might.
That far out in paradox space, time means nothing and could still mean nothing now, even post-destruction

while normally I would agree with regards to the Green Sun's omnipresence, the planet they've just travelled to is inside the black hole that the green sun used to be...

MorganMustDie wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:33 am

thorondraco wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:11 pm

Would it? The green sun is gone.

To be fair, the Green Sun also didn't exist during the beta session but they still had Bec. So technically the Green Sun did still exist, and still might.
That far out in paradox space, time means nothing and could still mean nothing now, even post-destruction

That was only because of the Furthest Ring though. The furthest ring allowed the green sun's light to shine even before its creation. The white void is empty but otherwise stable and likely does not have the time twisting properties of the Furthest Ring. Cause those properties was because it was conceptual Chaos.

Chaos in terms of a metaphorical origin form of matter. All the aspects woven together.

I have no idea how i remember all this shit O>o

thorondraco wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:44 am

I have no idea how i remember all this shit O>o

Me pulling out obscure Homestuck lore only to be proven wrong by mister thorondraco

MorganMustDie wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:52 am

thorondraco wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:44 am

I have no idea how i remember all this shit O>o

Me pulling out obscure Homestuck lore only to be proven wrong by mister thorondraco

Sometimes my memory can blur between speculation and proven stuff. But i know it is because of the Furthest ring's usntable timespace stuff that allowed it to happen. And the void is now inside of a god damn Black Hole.

thorondraco wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:57 am

Sometimes my memory can blur between speculation and proven stuff. But i know it is because of the Furthest ring's usntable timespace stuff that allowed it to happen. And the void is now inside of a god damn Black Hole.

The void will, at all points in time, be outside and inside the black hole. The black hole itself, along with the green sun, simultaneously exist, are non-existent, have always existed and will never exist at any given point of time.

MorganMustDie wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:10 am

thorondraco wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:57 am

Sometimes my memory can blur between speculation and proven stuff. But i know it is because of the Furthest ring's usntable timespace stuff that allowed it to happen. And the void is now inside of a god damn Black Hole.

The void will, at all points in time, be outside and inside the black hole. The black hole itself, along with the green sun, simultaneously exist, are non-existent, have always existed and will never exist at any given point of time.

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It would exist simultaneously, had the black hole not eaten the warped timespace around it and imprisoned it in its event horizon.

It is possible however that new Guardians are redesigned by some unknown force to pull in the energy of the Black Hole. That is probably how Calliope has taken over Jade's body, tapping into her connection to the Green Sun and allow the forces contained in the black hole to be accessed.

thorondraco wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:18 am

It would exist simultaneously, had the black hole not eaten the warped timespace around it and imprisoned it in its event horizon.

It is possible however that new Guardians are redesigned by some unknown force to pull in the energy of the Black Hole. That is probably how Calliope has taken over Jade's body, tapping into her connection to the Green Sun and allow the forces contained in the black hole to be accessed.

Would becoming trapped within an event horizon be enough to fully demolish the power of the green sun? One could argue that, despite it no longer having physical structure, the concentration of its being leads to an equally or over-powered edition inside the black hole, letting first guardians draw from that source of power instead

MorganMustDie wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:10 am

thorondraco wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:18 am

It would exist simultaneously, had the black hole not eaten the warped timespace around it and imprisoned it in its event horizon.

It is possible however that new Guardians are redesigned by some unknown force to pull in the energy of the Black Hole. That is probably how Calliope has taken over Jade's body, tapping into her connection to the Green Sun and allow the forces contained in the black hole to be accessed.

Would becoming trapped within an event horizon be enough to fully demolish the power of the green sun? One could argue that, despite it no longer having physical structure, the concentration of its being leads to an equally or over-powered edition inside the black hole, letting first guardians draw from that source of power instead

it didn't demolish the power. It consumed it. And black hole are selfish fuckers that don't like letting things go easily. In a sense Jade and Calliope Jade have both the power of the green sun and the void as a source now, thanks to the black hole.

However it means that under normal circumstances the energy and force within isn't leaving by itself. Essentially the black hole is an end point that undid the fabric of paradox space as we know it, leaving the mysterious white light.

thorondraco wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:48 am

However it means that under normal circumstances the energy and force within isn't leaving by itself. Essentially the black hole is an end point that undid the fabric of paradox space as we know it, leaving the mysterious white light.

Clearly not, since the people that fell into the black hole wound up in candy land
Maybe it's not so destructive as we thought

MorganMustDie wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:53 am

thorondraco wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:48 am

However it means that under normal circumstances the energy and force within isn't leaving by itself. Essentially the black hole is an end point that undid the fabric of paradox space as we know it, leaving the mysterious white light.

Clearly not, since the people that fell into the black hole wound up in candy land
Maybe it's not so destructive as we thought

Its following Problem Sleuth logic at this point.