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Yeah me too. There's been a DEVASTATING LACK OF JOHN in Homestuck^2 so far.Generalrabogolfo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:44 pmcall me a john fanboi but the fact that they brought vriska up to terezi BEFORE even acknowledging john's death is making me angry as fuck
It makes me wonder if part of the reason is because she wants to push Kanaya further away. Basically Rose emulating what Dirk did... Or worse, Dirk is manipulating rose into this. To help complicate Kanaya turning rose against him, and to sooth Terezi's funk so she becomes more compliant. He knows he can't narrate Terezi directly without complicating this.luigi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:10 pmGod Dammit yeah that picture of the tattoo sucks, ironically enough.
I like this update for the most part. I actually like Dirk breaking the fourth wall so blatantly, it makes sense for a Prince of Heart (destroying the narrative.) And everyone who dislikes him breaking the fourth wall seems to have conveniently forgotten... like, all of Homestuck? Scratch spoke to us directly, Caliborn spoke to us directly, Hussie spoke to us directly, and the game itself spoke to the reader on numerous occasions.
I think Rose being like, sexually attracted to Terezi is weird and goes against the whole idea of her being a robot now but then again if I was being uploaded into a robot body I would program the ability to feel sexual pleasure still because sex is awesome so if that's the case then yeah Rose I can sympathize. Terezi gets around though god damn I think she's been with more cast members than any other character. Her list so far is Karkat, Dave, Vriska, John, Rose, Gamzee, and I'm probably forgetting some.
I loved the insight into Rose's childhood. Hearing her childhood thoughts on suicide reminds me of a cute and silly girl I know in real life. I'm not trying to call suicidal thoughts cute but everything cute people do just ends up being cute in some sick way, I don't know if that's just me though.
I was hoping for some more panels but think about it: the beginning was from the perspective of Rose and it was one long informative panel.
Then we switch to Terezi's perspective and suddenly there are no images.
Then we switch back to Dirk and bam, a single homestuck-sized panel.
There's a method to this madness. We all have to stop shouting about how Homestuck is fixed/ruined every other update and just see where it's going.
why are they making this? acknowledging that you are doing something bad yet not doing anything to stop doing something bad makes it still badBrobyDDark wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:09 pmI think this is the worst update yet.
Last update was insufferable because of too much Dirk. Now we barely get any Dirk, but Rosebot continues the Strilonde tradition of insufferably talking about the fucking narrative, and how much SBURB is "unfeeling" and "cold."
"There were barely any panels this time. This isn't MY Homestuck" god shut up you orange prick.
Think terezi is trying not to think about John at the moment. Basically part of her motivations is his revival but she is having a lot of doubts when it comes to even doing this stuff. The entire process of sburb is very amoral, even if the result is the propagation of life. A little punch fucking, or whatever this is, might improve her mood.luigi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:07 pmYeah me too. There's been a DEVASTATING LACK OF JOHN in Homestuck^2 so far.Generalrabogolfo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:44 pmcall me a john fanboi but the fact that they brought vriska up to terezi BEFORE even acknowledging john's death is making me angry as fuck
they have confirmed there wont be any flashes nor walkarounds in this
I do agree with the sentiment that they should just get moving by now. Like, I'm not against how much of the story is being spent on this exposition from a word or page count perspective, but irl it's been literally months and we're only just now easing out of the prologue.Shitpost Lizard wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:31 pmAdding, because I forgot to in my original post:
I feel like all this discussion about how the previous game sessions were a mess without stricter guidance is some kind of meta commentary on how the original comic was executed.
Which, if that is the case, I wish they'd just do it,
and stop telling us that they're going to do it and it's going to be a better product.
Actions speak louder than words, etc.
Now that's some fucking garbage right there I can't believe you told me that now I'm incredibly sad and my hopes are irreparably dashed.Generalrabogolfo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:34 pmthey have confirmed there wont be any flashes nor walkarounds in this
Its complicated. We have to understand that Homestuck's meta structure is still separated from.. Well US as it were. There are equivalents to us i imagine but is not 'us' exactly. The fourth wall does not separate us from the reality, the fourth wall separates the more meta constructs that govern their world from their layer of reality.luigi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:16 pm^ Responding to person above the person above me
I think the dissolution either refers to the B2 Frog Temple (HOW THE FUCK DID IT GET TO EARTH????????????????????) or barring that, it just refers to the minds of the Reader. Like, if Homestuck ends and is forgotten by us in the real world, it essentially ceases to exist. Being fiction, it only really exists in the minds of those who engage with it, so Dirk's fears right now are that if he doesn't incite conflict, there will be no story, and thus no canon, and thus- he will dissolve.
They stated that they don't have any current plans for flashes and they would need to pay some peeps to create the animations.luigi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:36 pmI do agree with the sentiment that they should just get moving by now. Like, I'm not against how much of the story is being spent on this exposition from a word or page count perspective, but irl it's been literally months and we're only just now easing out of the prologue.Shitpost Lizard wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:31 pmAdding, because I forgot to in my original post:
I feel like all this discussion about how the previous game sessions were a mess without stricter guidance is some kind of meta commentary on how the original comic was executed.
Which, if that is the case, I wish they'd just do it,
and stop telling us that they're going to do it and it's going to be a better product.
Actions speak louder than words, etc.
If they released Chapter 5 as the last page of Chapter 4, and then released whatever Chapter 6 is going to be in Chapter 5's place people wouldn't hate it as much. I think the real world pacing of the story is making it seem like the story is just dragging, which was also my biggest gripe (and seemingly most people's biggest gripe) about getting access to new characters back in Acts 2 & 3.
Now that's some fucking garbage right there I can't believe you told me that now I'm incredibly sad and my hopes are irreparably dashed.Generalrabogolfo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:34 pmthey have confirmed there wont be any flashes nor walkarounds in this
Well take into account that Hussie himself refered to Homestuck as a Trash Sculpture. He knows he is a messy motherfucker.Shitpost Lizard wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:31 pmAdding, because I forgot to in my original post:
I feel like all this discussion about how the previous game sessions were a mess without stricter guidance is some kind of meta commentary on how the original comic was executed.
Which, if that is the case, I wish they'd just do it,
and stop telling us that they're going to do it and it's going to be a better product.
Actions speak louder than words, etc.
Yeah ik that's why I put flash in air quotes. I don't mean literally flash but just like, Homestuckian animation.thorondraco wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:45 pmThey stated that they don't have any current plans for flashes and they would need to pay some peeps to create the animations.luigi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:36 pmI do agree with the sentiment that they should just get moving by now. Like, I'm not against how much of the story is being spent on this exposition from a word or page count perspective, but irl it's been literally months and we're only just now easing out of the prologue.Shitpost Lizard wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:31 pmAdding, because I forgot to in my original post:
I feel like all this discussion about how the previous game sessions were a mess without stricter guidance is some kind of meta commentary on how the original comic was executed.
Which, if that is the case, I wish they'd just do it,
and stop telling us that they're going to do it and it's going to be a better product.
Actions speak louder than words, etc.
If they released Chapter 5 as the last page of Chapter 4, and then released whatever Chapter 6 is going to be in Chapter 5's place people wouldn't hate it as much. I think the real world pacing of the story is making it seem like the story is just dragging, which was also my biggest gripe (and seemingly most people's biggest gripe) about getting access to new characters back in Acts 2 & 3.
Now that's some fucking garbage right there I can't believe you told me that now I'm incredibly sad and my hopes are irreparably dashed.Generalrabogolfo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:34 pm
they have confirmed there wont be any flashes nor walkarounds in this
Also flash is going to die soon and they don't have a good replacement for them in mind. They have issues with Youtube so hosting it there is a bit iffy. And to be fair youtube is a fuckin mess right now. Has been for years now.
werent they using html5 to fix homestuck's flashes? wait. they were fixing homestuck flashes right. that is not a thing that i thought was real but its fake right. right...?thorondraco wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:45 pmThey stated that they don't have any current plans for flashes and they would need to pay some peeps to create the animations.
Also flash is going to die soon and they don't have a good replacement for them in mind. They have issues with Youtube so hosting it there is a bit iffy. And to be fair youtube is a fuckin mess right now. Has been for years now.